Andy McDonald (36) NHL totals: 927. 284 + 422 = 706 238 PIM
Sergei Gonchar (39) NHL totals: 1367. 248 + 626 = 874 845 PIM
Tomas Kaberle (35) NHL totals: 1179. 148 + 542 = 690 390 PIM
Corey Sarich (35) NHL totals: 1081. 30 + 253 = 283 2063 PIM
Miikka Kiprusoff (37) NHL totals: 653 GP, 1810 GA, 37 SO, 14236 saves
Joe Corvo (36) NHL totals: 794. 71 + 351 = 422 454 PIM
Justin Soryal (26) NHL totals: 1. 0 + 0 = 0 5 PIM
Kyle Lawson (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jean-Sébastien Giguère (36) NHL totals: 675 GP, 1756 GA, 33 SO, 14554 saves
Mathieu Garon (35) NHL totals: 338 GP, 1065 GA, 8 SO, 7484 saves
Shawn Horcoff (34) NHL totals: 1016. 237 + 320 = 557 168 PIM
Rob Scuderi (34) NHL totals: 595. 11 + 115 = 126 175 PIM
Francis Bouillon (37) NHL totals: 872. 24 + 204 = 228 282 PIM
Tim Thomas (36) NHL totals: 411 GP, 1217 GA, 18 SO, 8701 saves
Scott Clemmensen (36) NHL totals: 209 GP, 693 GA, 4 SO, 4370 saves
Chris Phillips (36) NHL totals: 1227. 64 + 349 = 413 1210 PIM
Craig Adams (36) NHL totals: 976. 112 + 158 = 270 748 PIM
Evgeni Nabokov (38) NHL totals: 812 GP, 2231 GA, 46 SO, 17417 saves
Jay Barriball (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
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Ray Whitney (41) NHL totals: 1363. 436 + 621 = 1057 254 PIM
Alex Kovalev (40) NHL totals: 1490. 589 + 615 = 1204 900 PIM
Viktor Kozlov (38) NHL totals: 958. 236 + 347 = 583 180 PIM
Sami Salo (38) NHL totals: 1031. 110 + 407 = 517 201 PIM
Deron Quint (37) NHL totals: 595. 45 + 141 = 186 369 PIM
John Grahame (38) NHL totals: 207 GP, 580 GA, 6 SO, 4343 saves
Oleg Tverdovsky (37) NHL totals: 985. 126 + 407 = 533 333 PIM
Éric Perrin (37) NHL totals: 328. 49 + 92 = 141 125 PIM
Alexander Korolyuk (37) NHL totals: 475. 83 + 92 = 175 227 PIM
Cristobal Huet (37) NHL totals: 155 GP, 511 GA, 2 SO, 3801 saves
Chris Clark (37) NHL totals: 777. 120 + 119 = 239 902 PIM
Radek Bonk (37) NHL totals: 1167. 255 + 386 = 641 495 PIM
Randy Robitaille (37) NHL totals: 488. 80 + 118 = 198 179 PIM
Brendan Morrison (37) NHL totals: 858. 216 + 342 = 558 191 PIM
Jeff Halpern (37) NHL totals: 806. 193 + 237 = 430 494 PIM
Blake Sloan (37) NHL totals: 158. 8 + 17 = 25 105 PIM
Andreas Lilja (37) NHL totals: 542. 7 + 82 = 89 296 PIM
Jason Krog (37) NHL totals: 59. 8 + 12 = 20 34 PIM
Brian Swanson (37) NHL totals: 17. 1 + 1 = 2 6 PIM
Kim Johnsson (37) NHL totals: 858. 59 + 305 = 364 454 PIM
Reinhard Divis (37) NHL totals: 7 GP, 18 GA, 0 SO, 116 saves
Jarkko Ruutu (37) NHL totals: 483. 49 + 81 = 130 862 PIM
Petr Cajanek (37) NHL totals: 366. 61 + 81 = 142 152 PIM
Martin Prusek (37) NHL totals: 75 GP, 191 GA, 3 SO, 1820 saves
Ryan Johnson (37) NHL totals: 887. 80 + 145 = 225 330 PIM
Richard Park (37) NHL totals: 797. 130 + 148 = 278 602 PIM
Steven Reinprecht (37) NHL totals: 751. 187 + 289 = 476 131 PIM
Andreas Karlsson (37) NHL totals: 126. 10 + 20 = 30 30 PIM
Andy Delmore (36) NHL totals: 340. 29 + 89 = 118 105 PIM
Fernando Pisani (36) NHL totals: 469. 56 + 56 = 112 192 PIM
José Théodore (36) NHL totals: 617 GP, 1801 GA, 31 SO, 14131 saves
Dmitri Nabokov (36) NHL totals: 200. 15 + 15 = 30 362 PIM
Mark Parrish (36) NHL totals: 827. 268 + 273 = 541 529 PIM
Petr Sykora (36) NHL totals: 1028. 384 + 497 = 881 377 PIM
Wyatt Smith (36) NHL totals: 60. 3 + 8 = 11 50 PIM
Ronald Petrovicky (36) NHL totals: 166. 12 + 13 = 25 124 PIM
Sean Brown (36) NHL totals: 524. 25 + 112 = 137 1262 PIM
Jeff Friesen (36) NHL totals: 952. 240 + 348 = 588 687 PIM
Teemu Riihijarvi (36) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Filip Kuba (36) NHL totals: 748. 64 + 261 = 325 330 PIM
Tom Poti (36) NHL totals: 922. 97 + 334 = 431 434 PIM
Denis Gauthier (36) NHL totals: 774. 22 + 146 = 168 1522 PIM
Vadim Tarasov (36) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Vesa Toskala (36) NHL totals: 254 GP, 726 GA, 10 SO, 5341 saves
Maxim Kuznetsov (36) NHL totals: 44. 1 + 7 = 8 29 PIM
Daymond Langkow (36) NHL totals: 1191. 303 + 454 = 757 751 PIM
Marty Reasoner (36) NHL totals: 670. 77 + 115 = 192 517 PIM
Bryan Berard (36) NHL totals: 829. 81 + 339 = 420 432 PIM
Lubos Bartecko (36) NHL totals: 170. 26 + 42 = 68 73 PIM
Chad Kilger (36) NHL totals: 885. 126 + 158 = 284 466 PIM
Greg Leeb (36) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre (36) NHL totals: 419. 9 + 48 = 57 739 PIM
Mark Eaton (36) NHL totals: 670. 27 + 141 = 168 404 PIM
Jeff Hamilton (35) NHL totals: 123. 16 + 22 = 38 53 PIM
Jonathan Hedstrom (35) NHL totals: 82. 13 + 21 = 34 45 PIM
Marc Denis (35) NHL totals: 365 GP, 1076 GA, 11 SO, 8446 saves
Ben Clymer (35) NHL totals: 442. 37 + 103 = 140 772 PIM
Pierre Dagenais (35) NHL totals: 83. 11 + 12 = 23 99 PIM
Colin White (35) NHL totals: 918. 33 + 221 = 254 1736 PIM
Alexander Volchkov (35) NHL totals: 164. 29 + 36 = 65 218 PIM
Jay Mckee (35) NHL totals: 924. 21 + 177 = 198 526 PIM
Stephen Valiquette (35) NHL totals: 50 GP, 192 GA, 0 SO, 1109 saves
Matt Higgins (35) NHL totals: 140. 6 + 8 = 14 6 PIM
Matt Bradley (35) NHL totals: 412. 33 + 66 = 99 454 PIM
Steve Kariya (35) NHL totals: 226. 25 + 59 = 84 213 PIM
Jean-Pierre Dumont (35) NHL totals: 857. 283 + 345 = 628 268 PIM
Peter Ratchuk (35) NHL totals: 32. 1 + 1 = 2 10 PIM
Kyle McLaren (35) NHL totals: 949. 80 + 294 = 374 915 PIM
Robert Esche (35) NHL totals: 138 GP, 413 GA, 8 SO, 2971 saves
Peter Schaefer (35) NHL totals: 717. 115 + 148 = 263 280 PIM
Kyle Calder (34) NHL totals: 573. 104 + 116 = 220 276 PIM
Yuri Butsayev (34) NHL totals: 96. 9 + 8 = 17 29 PIM
Joe DiPenta (34) NHL totals: 105. 4 + 20 = 24 110 PIM
Wade DuBielewicz (34) NHL totals: 43 GP, 115 GA, 0 SO, 918 saves
Ivan Novoseltsev (34) NHL totals: 341. 26 + 39 = 65 283 PIM
Mike Brown (34) NHL totals: 1. 0 + 0 = 0 5 PIM
Adam Mair (34) NHL totals: 488. 29 + 57 = 86 917 PIM
Noah Clarke (34) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 2 = 2 0 PIM
Josef Melichar (34) NHL totals: 309. 12 + 79 = 91 280 PIM
Ben Guité (34) NHL totals: 177. 23 + 29 = 52 47 PIM
Kristian Huselius (34) NHL totals: 730. 193 + 254 = 447 231 PIM
Tom Preissing (34) NHL totals: 259. 10 + 81 = 91 18 PIM
Steve Gainey (34) NHL totals: 85. 9 + 12 = 21 179 PIM
Vitali Kolesnik (33) NHL totals: 151 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Jay Leach (33) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 1 = 1 6 PIM
Magnus Kahnberg (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Christian Berglund (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jeremy Yablonski (33) NHL totals: 2. 0 + 0 = 0 5 PIM
Toni Dahlman (33) NHL totals: 11. 0 + 0 = 0 4 PIM
Kevin Grimes (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Micki Dupont (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Erik Westrum (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Miroslav Zalesak (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Artem Chubarov (33) NHL totals: 214. 14 + 32 = 46 342 PIM
Andrej Nedorost (33) NHL totals: 89. 5 + 9 = 14 157 PIM
Libor Pivko (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mathieu Biron (33) NHL totals: 257. 9 + 50 = 59 95 PIM
Tomas Zizka (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Andrew Hutchinson (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Nolan Schaefer (33) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Brad Leeb (33) NHL totals: 2. 0 + 0 = 0 2 PIM
Prestin Ryan (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Adam Hauser (33) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Jeff Finger (33) NHL totals: 186. 7 + 41 = 48 76 PIM
Mathieu Chouinard (33) NHL totals: 10 GP, 29 GA, 0 SO, 181 saves
Andy Wozniewski (33) NHL totals: 75. 1 + 7 = 8 4 PIM
Martin Cibak (33) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Dmitri Afanasenkov (33) NHL totals: 162. 14 + 28 = 42 95 PIM
Ryan Flinn (33) NHL totals: 51. 3 + 6 = 9 180 PIM
Junior Lessard (33) NHL totals: 1. 0 + 0 = 0 2 PIM
Matt Walker (33) NHL totals: 400. 8 + 68 = 76 347 PIM
Milan Bartovic (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Roman Tvrdon (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jordan Sigalet (32) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Jason Jaspers (32) NHL totals: 68. 3 + 4 = 7 29 PIM
Guillaume Lefebvre (32) NHL totals: 2. 0 + 1 = 1 4 PIM
Barrett Heisten (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Lynn Loyns (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Michal Sivek (32) NHL totals: 23. 0 + 4 = 4 28 PIM
Kurt Sauer (32) NHL totals: 241. 5 + 51 = 56 326 PIM
Greg Amadio (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Stuart (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Milan Kraft (32) NHL totals: 370. 67 + 99 = 166 201 PIM
David Tanabe (32) NHL totals: 748. 64 + 248 = 312 325 PIM
Julien Vauclair (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Ryan Caldwell (32) NHL totals: 7. 0 + 1 = 1 2 PIM
Kip Brennan (32) NHL totals: 34. 1 + 1 = 2 156 PIM
Zdenek Blatny (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Branislav Mezei (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Craig Weller (32) NHL totals: 158. 10 + 22 = 32 439 PIM
Darcy Hordichuk (32) NHL totals: 425. 27 + 42 = 69 1394 PIM
Scott Kelman (32) NHL totals: 19. 1 + 2 = 3 31 PIM
Mikhail Kuleshov (32) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jonas Andersson (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Hoffman (32) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 1 = 1 2 PIM
Chad Wiseman (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jon DiSalvatore (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jani Rita (32) NHL totals: 90. 10 + 15 = 25 145 PIM
Charlie Stephens (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Evgeny Konstantinov (32) NHL totals: 1 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Martin Grenier (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Bruno St. Jacques (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Fedor Fedorov (32) NHL totals: 109. 7 + 14 = 21 316 PIM
Krisjanis Redlihs (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Adam Berkhoel (32) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
David Printz (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Ross Lupaschuk (32) NHL totals: 7. 0 + 1 = 1 2 PIM
Chris Durno (32) NHL totals: 92. 12 + 16 = 28 62 PIM
Justin Mapletoft (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Maxime Ouellet (32) NHL totals: 7 GP, 16 GA, 0 SO, 133 saves
Kyle Wanvig (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Patrik Stefan (32) NHL totals: 867. 208 + 332 = 540 194 PIM
Steve MacIntyre (32) NHL totals: 127. 7 + 18 = 25 415 PIM
Alexei Semenov (32) NHL totals: 150. 2 + 21 = 23 363 PIM
Dan Jancevski (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Joonas Vihko (32) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jiri Fischer (32) NHL totals: 472. 12 + 111 = 123 498 PIM
Trent Hunter (32) NHL totals: 571. 124 + 174 = 298 585 PIM
Olli Malmivaara (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Kevin Estrada (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Riley Cote (31) NHL totals: 183. 15 + 25 = 40 592 PIM
Bjorn Melin (31) NHL totals: 6. 0 + 0 = 0 2 PIM
Christoph Schubert (31) NHL totals: 13. 2 + 2 = 4 6 PIM
Chad Anderson (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jakub Cutta (31) NHL totals: 3. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Marc Cavosie (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Ivan Huml (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Louis Robitaille (31) NHL totals: 25. 1 + 4 = 5 115 PIM
Kris Vernarsky (31) NHL totals: 15. 3 + 2 = 5 43 PIM
Brandon Rogers (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Tomas Malec (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Brian Sipotz (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Wade Skolney (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Artem Kryukov (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Timo Helbling (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Grant Stevenson (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Pär Bäcker (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Dennis Packard (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Goran Bezina (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Filip Novak (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Sean Curry (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Brian Finley (31) NHL totals: 12 GP, 25 GA, 1 SO, 248 saves
Greg Jacina (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Troy Riddle (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jean-François Racine (31) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Daniel Widing (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mikhail Yakubov (31) NHL totals: 242. 25 + 30 = 55 306 PIM
Alexander Suglobov (31) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Martin Samuelsson (31) NHL totals: 112. 3 + 9 = 12 166 PIM
Robert McVicar (31) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Ben Eaves (31) NHL totals: 45. 2 + 1 = 3 20 PIM
Kiel McLeod (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
P.J. Atherton (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Igor Knyazev (30) NHL totals: 18. 0 + 2 = 2 6 PIM
Neil Petruic (30) NHL totals: 38. 0 + 1 = 1 33 PIM
Darren Reid (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jordan Krestanovich (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Cam Paddock (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Walsh (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Andrew Penner (30) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Greg Hogeboom (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jordan Parise (30) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Nick Pannoni (30) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
John Adams (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Victor Uchevatov (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Andrew Archer (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Tom Walsh (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Dan Blackburn (30) NHL totals: 30 GP, 95 GA, 1 SO, 597 saves
Vince Bellissimo (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Shawn Collymore (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Mole (30) NHL totals: 7 GP, 12 GA, 0 SO, 113 saves
Duncan Milroy (30) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Shane Hynes (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Maxime Daigneault (29) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Brandon Nolan (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Brandon Elliott (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Robert Gherson (29) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Todd Ford (29) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Jamie Hunt (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Rylan Kaip (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Morris (29) NHL totals: 1. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Michael Lambert (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Rosario Ruggeri (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jonathan Tremblay (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Lee Falardeau (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jake Taylor (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jon Gleed (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Olivier Michaud (29) NHL totals: 1 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 14 saves
Dominic D'Amour (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Gabe Gauthier (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Doug O'Brien (29) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Luke Beaverson (28) NHL totals: 9. 0 + 1 = 1 2 PIM
J.P. Testwuide (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Derek Peltier (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Ryan Donally (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Josh Engel (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Réjean Beauchemin (28) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Chris Beckford-Tseu (28) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Ryan Oulahen (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jonathan Filewich (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Cory Urquhart (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Mike Brown (28) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Dany Roussin (28) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Dan Turple (28) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Mike Wall (27) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Nick Dodge (27) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Joe Barnes (27) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Tom Fritsche (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Bobby Bolt (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Dan Ryder (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Jean-Claude Sawyer (26) NHL totals: 0. 0 + 0 = 0 0 PIM
Joe Palmer (25) NHL totals: 0 GP, 0 GA, 0 SO, 0 saves
Sujet: Retraite 2013 
Sam 12 Oct - 2:49
